Con-Tru-versy: Presence of Variables
Posted on Mar 5th, 2007
by
Tru
Yes, when it comes to our actions there is an equalizing and there is an end. But how it happens is out of the jurisdiction of commercial concepts such as “Law of Attraction”.
Being human is a very accountable life. True, what we decide to do has a major impact on what happens to us. Still, we see people who have wronged no one nor even desire to wrong anyone. And yet, they become mistreated and suffer at the hands of oppressors. History is littered with such accounts.
At Acts 7:59, 60 we notice a famous event recorded where Stephen is stoned by his opposers. Was Stephen dwelling on negative energy thereby prompting the murderous behavior of the scribes?
On the contrary, he recited truthful deeds which angered the scribes present. They then started stoning him while at the same time he prayed for forgiveness on their behalf. Here we see positive action and thinking received unfriendly results from Stephen's contemporaries. Hate attracting love? And the total opposite has happened, and been recorded too.
Even I, personally, pray and have positive thoughts toward people who wish to be disruptive towards others. They aren't attracting negative reaction everytime. Living near a college affords me the opportunity to live among various youthful attitudes and lifestyles. And its everyday to witness how the behavior experienced isn't always attracting 'like' results, as if a law. Surely it isn't an invasion of anomalies, is it?
Yes such things are constantly seen taking place now. From the vast accounts of this presence of variables with human blessings and sufferings, we realize attraction is null as law.
Some spiritual practices teach that doing good isn't dependent on good returning. Jesus himself taught that, despite the love given, many would not receive him well and would even hate him and others like him (Matt 24:9). Love attracting hate? Obviously, humans are subject to experiencing opposite results from their intentions and actions.
Prime example is here at Zaadz. In the early days, due to what didn't fit in the TOS and negative reactions, Brian (CEO) himself banned many from remaning with Zaadz. And even todate, periodically, the same actions are taken to prevent a negative vibe from being present. That is, negative according to Brian and company.
So how would it look according to LoA if we held them up to that light? What kind of mental dwelling was/is operational?
I mean, without much effort, a quick search on the net pulls up some interesting feelings and reviews attracted by Zaadz. But, personally, I could never attribute such things to the thinking of the creators of the site dwelling on ______. Are we really going to attribute some like attracts like law at work?
The same goes for opponents of The Secret, Steve Pavlina, America, the pandit Ken Wilber, Esther Hicks and others. They ALL have some serious variations of passions, opinions and insights attracted by their thinking all over the earth. T'would seem if LoA is the lens used, and like is attracting like, the implications are quite enormous and not completely favorable.
Sounds like one 'huge glitch' in the system if we're persuaded toward this LoA theory. The same goes for Subjective reality theory. Freedom of thought is truly a nice perk as humans. I see more inventive theories coming to bear as we go on. And so be it. Its just good observing the truth and witnessing its unchangableness march forward, despite pop-theories.
"You heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.' However, I say to you: Do not resist him that is wicked; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him." ---Jesus Christ, 30 A.D.
Being human is a very accountable life. True, what we decide to do has a major impact on what happens to us. Still, we see people who have wronged no one nor even desire to wrong anyone. And yet, they become mistreated and suffer at the hands of oppressors. History is littered with such accounts.
At Acts 7:59, 60 we notice a famous event recorded where Stephen is stoned by his opposers. Was Stephen dwelling on negative energy thereby prompting the murderous behavior of the scribes?
On the contrary, he recited truthful deeds which angered the scribes present. They then started stoning him while at the same time he prayed for forgiveness on their behalf. Here we see positive action and thinking received unfriendly results from Stephen's contemporaries. Hate attracting love? And the total opposite has happened, and been recorded too.
Even I, personally, pray and have positive thoughts toward people who wish to be disruptive towards others. They aren't attracting negative reaction everytime. Living near a college affords me the opportunity to live among various youthful attitudes and lifestyles. And its everyday to witness how the behavior experienced isn't always attracting 'like' results, as if a law. Surely it isn't an invasion of anomalies, is it?
Yes such things are constantly seen taking place now. From the vast accounts of this presence of variables with human blessings and sufferings, we realize attraction is null as law.
Some spiritual practices teach that doing good isn't dependent on good returning. Jesus himself taught that, despite the love given, many would not receive him well and would even hate him and others like him (Matt 24:9). Love attracting hate? Obviously, humans are subject to experiencing opposite results from their intentions and actions.
Prime example is here at Zaadz. In the early days, due to what didn't fit in the TOS and negative reactions, Brian (CEO) himself banned many from remaning with Zaadz. And even todate, periodically, the same actions are taken to prevent a negative vibe from being present. That is, negative according to Brian and company.
So how would it look according to LoA if we held them up to that light? What kind of mental dwelling was/is operational?
I mean, without much effort, a quick search on the net pulls up some interesting feelings and reviews attracted by Zaadz. But, personally, I could never attribute such things to the thinking of the creators of the site dwelling on ______. Are we really going to attribute some like attracts like law at work?
The same goes for opponents of The Secret, Steve Pavlina, America, the pandit Ken Wilber, Esther Hicks and others. They ALL have some serious variations of passions, opinions and insights attracted by their thinking all over the earth. T'would seem if LoA is the lens used, and like is attracting like, the implications are quite enormous and not completely favorable.
Sounds like one 'huge glitch' in the system if we're persuaded toward this LoA theory. The same goes for Subjective reality theory. Freedom of thought is truly a nice perk as humans. I see more inventive theories coming to bear as we go on. And so be it. Its just good observing the truth and witnessing its unchangableness march forward, despite pop-theories.
"You heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.' However, I say to you: Do not resist him that is wicked; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him." ---Jesus Christ, 30 A.D.
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So if you are not a believer in LoA then do you support the opposite? Or do you take a more scientific approach like you've mentioned and simply believe in actions and reactions? You claim that something doesn't work but is there anything that you claim does work or is it all subject to oppinion?
half confused half curious
Carl
Why would I believe in something that doesn't exhibit definitive reaction? No definitive law exists on attraction. Just ask a magnet (since energy is everything). :)
“Is there anything that you claim does work or is it all subject to oppinion?” Wisdom, determination and love have shown consistency since the dawn of man. If you consider that scientific, so be it. If not, so be it. But some may consider it cause and effect.
check out the pod 'secrets of the secret' if you want to delve into more in depth discussions on these themes.
Will do.